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	<title>Comments on: White Buffalo, Inc. - Animal Abuse, Point Reyes Fallow Deer, Local Horror</title>
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		<title>by: info</title>
		<link>http://www.americanbirdguide.com/wordpress/?p=70#comment-21163</link>
		<pubDate>Wed, 19 Sep 2007 20:54:01 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description>Dear Matriarch,
Thank you for taking the time to comment on this thread. The Friends of the White Deer have been working and working to stop the extermination of the deer, but the NPS continues to show no interest in public opinion, or in the requests of state government.


The short answer for why this is happening is that the NPS and the Nature Conservancy, who own nearly all wild lands in the US, have adopted an ethic invented by Nazi scientists the goal of which is to exterminate all 'non-native' plants and animals. They are exterminating entire species across the U.S., completely against the wishes of the public. 

Rather than understanding the importance of bio-diversity, and the irrefutable fact that nature works by allowing species of plants and animals to migrate in waves over the planet again and again, the NPS and the Nature Conservancy want to create a Disneyland wilderness, based upon an incorrect idea that pre-Columbian America had only native plants and animals.


This is not so, of course. There are plants from China all over California that appear to have come here long before Columbus. Every year, hundreds of species of non-native birds arrive here from South America on their migration. And of course, pre-Columbian Point Reyes was home to thousands of Miwok Indians. The NPS turns a deaf ear to the suggestion that, if they want a pre-Columbian Pt. Reyes, they need to leave and give the land back to the remaining Miwoks.


Their position is ridiculous, and has won tremendous scorn from legitimate scientists who are horrified by the concept of 'natives'. It is racism in the extreme, and completely against the natural workings of nature.


Research will show you communities across the country attempting to halt these mad plans of mass slaughter before it is too late. Unfortunately, extinction happens rapidly with modern weapons. The wolves of Yellowstone were wiped out in just a decade or two. Then park officials decided they'd made a mistake and began importing wolves back into the park.


When will they learn to just keep their hands off  nature? Nature balances its ecosystems in its own time. It's not our job.


I hope the above information helps you get a picture of what is going on. You can check out the news section of fotwd.org for further reporting, history and news about the valiant attempts of the local people to save the deer.


Thank you again for taking the time to write.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Dear Matriarch,<br />
Thank you for taking the time to comment on this thread. The Friends of the White Deer have been working and working to stop the extermination of the deer, but the NPS continues to show no interest in public opinion, or in the requests of state government.</p>
<p>The short answer for why this is happening is that the NPS and the Nature Conservancy, who own nearly all wild lands in the US, have adopted an ethic invented by Nazi scientists the goal of which is to exterminate all &#8216;non-native&#8217; plants and animals. They are exterminating entire species across the U.S., completely against the wishes of the public. </p>
<p>Rather than understanding the importance of bio-diversity, and the irrefutable fact that nature works by allowing species of plants and animals to migrate in waves over the planet again and again, the NPS and the Nature Conservancy want to create a Disneyland wilderness, based upon an incorrect idea that pre-Columbian America had only native plants and animals.</p>
<p>This is not so, of course. There are plants from China all over California that appear to have come here long before Columbus. Every year, hundreds of species of non-native birds arrive here from South America on their migration. And of course, pre-Columbian Point Reyes was home to thousands of Miwok Indians. The NPS turns a deaf ear to the suggestion that, if they want a pre-Columbian Pt. Reyes, they need to leave and give the land back to the remaining Miwoks.</p>
<p>Their position is ridiculous, and has won tremendous scorn from legitimate scientists who are horrified by the concept of &#8216;natives&#8217;. It is racism in the extreme, and completely against the natural workings of nature.</p>
<p>Research will show you communities across the country attempting to halt these mad plans of mass slaughter before it is too late. Unfortunately, extinction happens rapidly with modern weapons. The wolves of Yellowstone were wiped out in just a decade or two. Then park officials decided they&#8217;d made a mistake and began importing wolves back into the park.</p>
<p>When will they learn to just keep their hands off  nature? Nature balances its ecosystems in its own time. It&#8217;s not our job.</p>
<p>I hope the above information helps you get a picture of what is going on. You can check out the news section of fotwd.org for further reporting, history and news about the valiant attempts of the local people to save the deer.</p>
<p>Thank you again for taking the time to write.
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		<title>by: matriarch</title>
		<link>http://www.americanbirdguide.com/wordpress/?p=70#comment-21159</link>
		<pubDate>Wed, 19 Sep 2007 20:31:47 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description>Once many years ago my husband and I backpacked through Point Reyes. The sight of the fallow deer appearing out of the mists was one I will cherish forever. Living in Washington State, this is the first I've heard of plans to empty the park of deer. Why is this happening? I understand the problems brought about by "non-native species" but in this instance, I would venture that the NPS is the most threatening "non-native species." What a horrid decision from a public relations point of view, and from a spiritual perspective. This is almost too much to bear.Do they intend to leave the bucks to die of attrition? I never want to see Point Reyes again if this holocaust is completed. The cries of dying deer will surely be echoed forever by the earth and the trees.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Once many years ago my husband and I backpacked through Point Reyes. The sight of the fallow deer appearing out of the mists was one I will cherish forever. Living in Washington State, this is the first I&#8217;ve heard of plans to empty the park of deer. Why is this happening? I understand the problems brought about by &#8220;non-native species&#8221; but in this instance, I would venture that the NPS is the most threatening &#8220;non-native species.&#8221; What a horrid decision from a public relations point of view, and from a spiritual perspective. This is almost too much to bear.Do they intend to leave the bucks to die of attrition? I never want to see Point Reyes again if this holocaust is completed. The cries of dying deer will surely be echoed forever by the earth and the trees.
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		<title>by: info</title>
		<link>http://www.americanbirdguide.com/wordpress/?p=70#comment-16621</link>
		<pubDate>Sat, 01 Sep 2007 19:29:44 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description>Hi Flowerlady,
Thank you so much for taking the time to share your feelings, and your story with us. I truly was offended by the corporation's use of a Native legend to describe their business.

Over the past few weeks, they have killed many deer at the seashore and then tourists began coming across the bodies. Presumably these were deer who were shot at but not killed and staggered away to die. This is exactly what all the people in Marin said would happen...while the company claimed they were such great shots, they'd kill all the deer with one shot. The local people are right and are terribly upset.

It's an outrage, and has been so hard for me to handle. I really appreciate you taking the time to  read my article and to comment. The Friends of the White Deer are still working to stop the further slaughters that are planned over the next few years.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi Flowerlady,<br />
Thank you so much for taking the time to share your feelings, and your story with us. I truly was offended by the corporation&#8217;s use of a Native legend to describe their business.</p>
<p>Over the past few weeks, they have killed many deer at the seashore and then tourists began coming across the bodies. Presumably these were deer who were shot at but not killed and staggered away to die. This is exactly what all the people in Marin said would happen&#8230;while the company claimed they were such great shots, they&#8217;d kill all the deer with one shot. The local people are right and are terribly upset.</p>
<p>It&#8217;s an outrage, and has been so hard for me to handle. I really appreciate you taking the time to  read my article and to comment. The Friends of the White Deer are still working to stop the further slaughters that are planned over the next few years.
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		<title>by: theflowerlady</title>
		<link>http://www.americanbirdguide.com/wordpress/?p=70#comment-16478</link>
		<pubDate>Sat, 01 Sep 2007 02:38:14 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description>I sat here and read your account of the murder (for, surely, that's what it MUST be called) of these beautiful, gentle creatures and cried my eyes out! 

I, too, am proud of my Native American heritage (which I inherit from two different tribes on both the maternal and paternal sides of my family) and it saddens me DEEPLY to learn of this... Indeed, how DARE these people hide behind the sacred mythologies of a people whose major concern was treading "lightly upon the Earth"! 

My favorite N.A. legend is about the deer: 

At the beginning of the world, all of the humans and animals were starving to death because food was so scarce. During a meeting of all of Earth's creatures to decide what could be done, the deer stepped forward and said, "Since we're all going to die from hunger anyway, we, the Deer-People, will volunteer to become food for the humans, the big cats, the vultures and some of the other carnivorous creatures. If we must die anyway, at least our bodies will help some of the other creatures of the Earth live in the process..." 

How could these people just slay the deer and then leave their bodies to rot? The Indians would fast and pray for DAYS before taking another creature's life -- even when they themselves were starving. We should remember the noble sacrifice of the "Deer People" and pay better homage to them than this... Things like this make me ashamed of my "humanity"...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I sat here and read your account of the murder (for, surely, that&#8217;s what it MUST be called) of these beautiful, gentle creatures and cried my eyes out! </p>
<p>I, too, am proud of my Native American heritage (which I inherit from two different tribes on both the maternal and paternal sides of my family) and it saddens me DEEPLY to learn of this&#8230; Indeed, how DARE these people hide behind the sacred mythologies of a people whose major concern was treading &#8220;lightly upon the Earth&#8221;! </p>
<p>My favorite N.A. legend is about the deer: </p>
<p>At the beginning of the world, all of the humans and animals were starving to death because food was so scarce. During a meeting of all of Earth&#8217;s creatures to decide what could be done, the deer stepped forward and said, &#8220;Since we&#8217;re all going to die from hunger anyway, we, the Deer-People, will volunteer to become food for the humans, the big cats, the vultures and some of the other carnivorous creatures. If we must die anyway, at least our bodies will help some of the other creatures of the Earth live in the process&#8230;&#8221; </p>
<p>How could these people just slay the deer and then leave their bodies to rot? The Indians would fast and pray for DAYS before taking another creature&#8217;s life &#8212; even when they themselves were starving. We should remember the noble sacrifice of the &#8220;Deer People&#8221; and pay better homage to them than this&#8230; Things like this make me ashamed of my &#8220;humanity&#8221;&#8230;
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